2012

Just a bit too bleak for me

Yea, I agree that video doesn't portray any possibilities on what the whole 2012 could truly be about?

I don't think that the world will end in 2012. I think the world will be destroyed by us(humans) because we pollute our planet and because of the greenhouse effect and other things just like that. That is why i believe the world will be ruined by humans

I think humans need some kind of galvanizing, unifying event. Something huge that can get around everyone's political or religious "wall". Maybe 2012 and these years before it that some call 'the Quickening' will hold such an event. Maybe then people can overcome the disconnection humananity has shown towards compassion, love and forgiveness and let go of the self-centered, greed-driven materialism. Who knows? One can hope.

No. It is not possible.

um, maybe. not saying anything though

I'd like to believe ,not that it's the end of the world but that it's a chance for a more fine tuned new begining in life..maybe

I think we will make it, We have made it for some years now and we are now moving on changeing things but like most of all this is just junk, there is ways we can fix most things and i've designed some but would like to build a model ver of it and see how it goes and there is now things around we use in the mines to clean haust gasses and any type of dirty smoke and it only costs around 100 to 200 dollars to have it installed (smoke in exhaust hits water and makes steam) they need this in tunnels when mining for gold or black gold (coal) or esle people working in there would just easy just die with exhaust smoke... it can also be installed on any house fireplace or any type gasses...

but a real good fix on things would be to make power cheaper
and this thing about oil running out is a huge big worm hole to suck you in to beleave we are really running out when we are not! there is lots of oil tap up so they can be used later plus why would a oil company start building oil storage tanks in places where they don't use much oil at all! plus Back when the wars was on the germans started making there own fuel from coal now we can make this stuff age within some years than having to wait 10,000 years so we still can be able to make fuel from that plus the land is not wasted as others can use the top part of it just that they need the unground part to make this coal

There is heaps of things out there to use but companies are just getting too hungry for food oops i mean money! and govt just don't want people to use it as some think govt should install it and not cost a thing to the people plus if they make it law car companies will just stop thinking of selling cars there or esle just put the price up high just for these things to be installed on them same goes the same to builders they will have to learn how to install this new thing and it will cost you a bit more for your house, Thats all

but yes i know the weather is being weird around the world as this winter we over here just had we had a lot of snow and it stayed in places its normaly gone within 24 hrs plus had flooding up North but as people know rain cleans the air that cuts down waste being carried in the air so if it rains more well it's better but we need to start cleaning the air and put these things on our cars and houses

Well think that will do my hands are cold from typing so much lol

Oh yeah, you may call me a weird! lol

I didn't want to quote your whole post. This is the part I want to get at.

"but a real good fix on things would be to make power cheaper
and this thing about oil running out is a huge big worm hole to suck you in to beleave we are really running out when we are not! there is lots of oil tap up so they can be used later plus why would a oil company start building oil storage tanks in places where they don't use much oil at all! plus Back when the wars was on the germans started making there own fuel from coal now we can make this stuff age within some years than having to wait 10,000 years so we still can be able to make fuel from that plus the land is not wasted as others can use the top part of it just that they need the unground part to make this coal"

Around the same time king capitalist Thomas Edison was inventing DC electricity for the world, another man named Nikola Tesla was working on AC. He also was working on a way of deriving power from the earth itself. Read cheap power. He was publicly destroyed by Edison and Tesla never recovered. The powers-that-be don't want cheap power.

As far as oil goes, we probably won't run out in our lifetimes, but oil deposits are not exactly commonplace. Although not as rare as fossils themselves, fossil fuels only form under the right circumstances. All dead organisms don't turn into fossil fuels.

That coal conversion sounds good, but the truth about that is it takes a ridiculous amount of coal(approx. 100 tons!) to make one 55 gallon barrel of this alternative. And besides that, it's coal. It burns dirty as hell.

lol, That sounds like an awesome idea power from the earth but yeah
lol, they are making it sound like oil would have ran out by the year 2020 here...

Ya get over 100 by products from a lump of coal and still have it left over for your firewood but maybe what you say is true but if it got worked on a bit better ya could take that down to 50 tons per 50 Gallons or even more and with the work over time we could make it burn cleaner plus with the stuff out there to clean burning things like this that just go onto your Exhaust...

I know we are now making our own diseal (sp) because the ones coming from the fuel companies already come dirty when burnt and we are not even useing the oil in the ground for this but i know a lot of coal plants are going all around the place...

I think a good idea might be to make a mixture of all the ideas to make the fuel some might be dirty ideas and some are clean but still it's better than nothing lol plus with a mixture it might become cleaner over time when worked with...


( i like the idea of AirFuel tho )

whats 2012???

i fully hearted beleive that something is gonna happen
i have now for almost 15+ years and in fact i have serious beleifs that i am to help or play some sort of role in it .. and of course only time will tell *heh* we may ALL have a role in it .. so i am seriously anxcious(sp)

i also beleive the choices and actions we took in 2005 have paved the way for the events that will transpire in 2012

Nemesis Prime wrote:

i fully hearted beleive that something is gonna happen
i have now for almost 15+ years and in fact i have serious beleifs that i am to help or play some sort of role in it .. and of course only time will tell *heh* we may ALL have a role in it .. so i am seriously anxcious(sp)

i also beleive the choices and actions we took in 2005 have paved the way for the events that will transpire in 2012

I agree with you Nemesis, I can feel a change coming, somethings going to happen. I believe it. But Good or Bad I'm not afraid, what ever happens was meant to be.

I was just discussing this with a friend the other day,
its possible and i hope it does happen

What I do know about this date is that the Earth and the Sun are going to be in some weird alignment with the black hole at the center of the galaxy. (It's happened before) There is the possibility that the Earth's magnetic polls will shift. (This has also happened before, quite a few times) This will most likely disrupt the world's weather patterns turning most of Earth's breadbaskets into deserts. If this does happen most of the world's population will starve to death in a matter of months. Imagine that, 6 billion people reduced to only a few million in a very short period of time. Hurray for the science channel!

record4 wrote:

What I do know about this date is that the Earth and the Sun are going to be in some weird alignment with the black hole at the center of the galaxy. (It's happened before) There is the possibility that the Earth's magnetic polls will shift. (This has also happened before, quite a few times) This will most likely disrupt the world's weather patterns turning most of Earth's breadbaskets into deserts. If this does happen most of the world's population will starve to death in a matter of months. Imagine that, 6 billion people reduced to only a few million in a very short period of time. Hurray for the science channel!

I think it could happen But I choose to believe in a new beginning instead of the end of the world. DropsofBlood (Denise) told me all about this. I think her and Nemo believe this stuff.Its freaky stuff, thats for sure .

It would be the end of the world as we know it. Human beings would hang on by a thread and probably be sent back into the pre industrial era for a while. So in a way it would be a new beginning.

If the world could start all over again, it would
we a way better place to exist.

record4 wrote:

What I do know about this date is that the Earth and the Sun are going to be in some weird alignment with the black hole at the center of the galaxy. (It's happened before) There is the possibility that the Earth's magnetic polls will shift. (This has also happened before, quite a few times) This will most likely disrupt the world's weather patterns turning most of Earth's breadbaskets into deserts. If this does happen most of the world's population will starve to death in a matter of months. Imagine that, 6 billion people reduced to only a few million in a very short period of time. Hurray for the science channel!

It happens every 25800 years.

To be quite honest, the more it sounds terrible, the better think it would be

Idealicly, it would be an extreme way ofsolving a nifty numer of problems in one big blow

I think we (as society) will be fine. The only major change I can imagine by 2012 would be the reality of China or the E.U. taking America out of the driver's seat (economically and/or militarilty) and becoming the next global superpower. - by far, not the end of all things though. (imo)

On the other hand....we live in an unstable world with never-ending conflicts. The possibility of us reaching 2010 might proove to be a difficult task.