America; 2008 Presidential Campaigns - Who will you vote for

America must vote for Barack Obama to signal its willingness to accept change & move forward.
A vote for McCain will just demonstrate that nothing has changed & the US wants more of what Bush has already given.

Unfortunately I fear that America cannot bring itself to be bold enough to put Obama in the White House,

I personally think that...
America is in for a rough time

Either they vote McCain, who is hated by the "World" (at least he is around here), who is depicted as "The New, Improved Bush"...
Or they vote Obama, who is new in all domains. Can America hold with such a new visage? Can Obama take it?

I think in either case, it could be interesting.

Ofcourse, if I were to vote, it'd be on Obama. When I was smaller, war in Iraq, yeah go for it. Fooled once but not twice

Why do people in England depict McCain as "The New Bush" He is not very well liked by a good majority of Rebublicans, including Bush, for his far left wing views. He is critized quite a bit for being too liberal and the republicans are fearing too much change from him. Exactly what Obama is trying to sell.

As for France, Well I can understand that. France has a very high Muslim population and, although Obama is not a Muslim, that does give him a
upper edge with the people of France so I've read.

This will come down to the lesser of two evils. It will be McCain IMO because when it comes down to it, not many identify with the logic of hiring a day trader to run a company like Merrill Lynch. People will identify with a war hero that gave his life for his country.

What?!

Indeed, in France we have a high number of muslims, but French people are racists to the bitter end. If anything, it's as you put it "the less of two evils"...

See, that's what's really bothering me about the campaign: McCain doesn't get an ounce of spotlight and what the media is feeding us is apparently false. With all this dis-information I'm actually glad I can't vote

IMO, if things continue like this though, it seems impossible for McCain to win. Obama is raising funds like never seen before and is ensuring he keeps the spotlight at all times. Basically, what McCain can do, so can Obama but with three times as much funds behind, so he can do it more. Money is a big brick towards the White House, Obama's brick looks like its in Gold

Caihlem wrote:

See, that's what's really bothering me about the campaign: McCain doesn't get an ounce of spotlight and what the media is feeding us is apparently false. With all this dis-information I'm actually glad I can't vote

You hit the nail on the head here. It may be a problem abroad but a bigger issue in the States since the media outlets favor Democrats. Unfortunately people in America do not do their research and rely too heavy on TV and Newspapers to base their opinions on verses watching the candidates speak.

Obama is a great speaker and that is where most of the hype is coming from. If people would read into his words verses being distracted by his ability to speak he would not be running.

Hey, that's life though

I mean, if it it WAS important what you did, presidential candidates wouldn't need surgery (Hilary & McCain), nor would they need to buy ads and TV spots

Thoughts on Palin?

ONECRUNCH wrote:

Thoughts on Palin?

I'm afraid I think she has been brought in purely as a vote-getter.

A vote thief at best, a tactical suicide at worst

I my opinion, McCain could have stabbed himself with a long and pointy knife, he'd have gained more votes (and lost less).
Ok, she's female, so try and snag Hillary's voters... Everyone steals voters, it's all fair game

But then you see who he chose and you think OMG! Her opinions alone enter almost every current debate present on this forum.
Against Abortion...
Religious Extremist...
Going against abortion is just dangerous. People will do it anyway, but it will be in stingy places rahter than with proper doctors and care.
Bush always talked about "God Bless America" in his speeches. So a Religious fanatic as VP is like a promise that ideology and methods will not change with McCain

Personally, his choice in VP makes it obvious to me now who I'd vote for, or rather who I would NOT vote for.

For the little side dish on French News, she's being portrayed as worse than him (he's got it bad too). Curious thing though, they reproach more her being against gun control than her being against abortion

Palin may be anti-abortion, but is she also anti-"Safe Sex"
Does her daughter know what a condom is for?

Why is it OK to blast an innocent animals brains out with a shotgun, but not to assist some poor rape victim who has become pregnant by her attacker, or someone who has been told their unborn child has some dreadful deformity or life-threatening problem that will make life ouside the womb impossible.

As for religious extremism, I'm of the opinion that people can hold whatever views they want, but I don't like it when they try to enforce their views on others.

Hmmm...

Her stances on the above things are not relavent at all in this election and Americans are fairly tired of seeing debate about them. The Media is the primary promoter of these topics. Bush was very against abortion but note that nothing was done. Same goes for Bush's religious stance. Nobody but the media wants any part of it and the topics are just stupid.

The Country has landed where it lands on these issues and no one in government is going to change them. Honestly their are bigger fish to fry at this point and what the country needs is solid leadership and effective decision making.

The more I read about her I wish she was running for President because her decisions show she is able to think outside of the box. Her nomination sealed the deal for me because she has more experience in a decision making role then Obama has. Pretty sad but true and she is the VP pick. If McCain chose Romney then I might have swung the other way as much as I loathe Obama.

I at first thought it was a stunt to pick up womens votes but it seems more of the exact opposite is happening. She is picking up votes from men. Sadly enough her daughter being pregnant is going to bring in more votes as well since lefy wingers are more symapthetic to these situations.

I think the elections tend to swing back & forth regardless, so therefore the Republicans have had their go & now the Democrats will have their turn!

This is how politics work. You preach for your church and damn/condemn the other

I'm not sure who I am voting but I am leaning towards Obama.

You left out an issue that is on the minds of many Americans but the Candidates are not really discussing. Illegal aliens.

Well, seen as I live in France and this is happening in America, I guess that's inevitable

I don't really blame the candidates for not talking about it too much because they both know they'd gain and loose votes as soon as they raise the discussion.
Some people want the illgeal, cheap working, aliens (as you call them). Others think that the country's big enough for all. In my opinion, the first should be shot, the second should be educated...

We also have a problem over here about illegal immigrants. Mr Sarkozy lost many votes when he firmly announced he'd put alot of effort into reducing their numbers big time.
In the end, that's indirectly why I voted for him; He stood up to the critics holding his goals sound and clear

Caihlem wrote:

Well, seen as I live in France and this is happening in America, I guess that's inevitable

I don't really blame the candidates for not talking about it too much because they both know they'd gain and loose votes as soon as they raise the discussion.
Some people want the illgeal, cheap working, aliens (as you call them). Others think that the country's big enough for all. In my opinion, the first should be shot, the second should be educated...

We also have a problem over here about illegal immigrants. Mr Sarkozy lost many votes when he firmly announced he'd put alot of effort into reducing their numbers big time.
In the end, that's indirectly why I voted for him; He stood up to the critics holding his goals sound and clear

There is no willpower in Washington DC to do anything about it. The Democrats see them as a future voter base and the Republicans see them as more cheap labor for their rich friends. I see it as something that may lead to the downfall of the United States as I have known it.

record4 wrote:

There is no willpower in Washington DC to do anything about it. The Democrats see them as a future voter base and the Republicans see them as more cheap labor for their rich friends. I see it as something that may lead to the downfall of the United States as I have known it.

This is very true. Bottom line is they should pay their fare share of taxes and no one will ( No Swearing ).

record4 wrote:

I'm not sure who I am voting but I am leaning towards Obama.

You left out an issue that is on the minds of many Americans but the Candidates are not really discussing. Illegal aliens.

To follow up on your first statement, Well.....It is not in the mainstream media right now so who cares......

Free Health care??? Yeah right....Any one of those Illegals can waltz right into a hospital and get free health care right now. Federal law provides for it.

Dude, you need to post in big characters? U_U

P.S: Voting for those who get less than 1% isn't exactly contributing to improvement

Here's something that will turn a persons stomach

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/08/obamas_swift_boat.html

BTW - This has not been refuted by Obama.

Oooh, that did just make me sick. Just even knowing that now , Onecrunch. Uugh!

Well, today is the day, America is getting their votes in. And it does look like Obama is in the lead. Only time can tell what we have in store next. Just hours to go and we will see what the people have voted.... How excitingly frightening.