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PostSubject: [Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials   [Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials EmptyWed Jul 23, 2008 5:31 pm

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0. Quick Warnings
This is a Bash Topic. This means that posts will not be moderated very much and that their content may be borderline. If you have a problem with this; please leave this topic immediately and go to the other version of this topic

I. Introduction
In 2008, the candidates for the White House are as stated below. The most known of them are Barrack Obama, senator of Illinois, and John McCain, senator of Arizona.

II. Where you come in
Who do you think should be voted for? Or who do you think we shouldn't vote for?

III. Further Reading
For those who would want to read a little more on the subject, here's a list of the candidates, with photos and links to their personal campaign sites (when given)

[Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials 89px-Barack_Obama Barrack Obama - Democrat
[Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials 88px-j10 John McCain - Republican
Charles Jay - Boston Tea Party
[Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials 103px-ChuckBaldwin_fairuse Chuck Baldwin - Constitution Party
[Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials 94px-Cynthia_McKinney_Congressional_photo Cynthia McKinney - Green Party
[Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials 93px-Bob_Barr-2008 Bob Barr - Libertarian Party
[Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials 107px-Amondson Gene Amondson - Prohibition Party
[Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials Weill Ted Weill - Reform Party
[Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials 81px-Lariva Gloria La Riva - Party for Socialism and Liberation
[Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials 90px-Brian_Moore_Untouched Brian Moore - Socialist Party
[Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials Calero Róger Calero - Socialist Workers Party
[Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials 101px-10 Ralph Nader - Independent
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PostSubject: Re: [Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials   [Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials EmptyWed Jul 23, 2008 6:31 pm

McCain - He already gave his life to our country.

Oh and OBAMA SUCKS THE BUT


Edit Caihlem: Edited out the normal and put in the Bash Topic
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PostSubject: Re: [Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials   [Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials EmptyWed Jul 23, 2008 7:45 pm

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McCain - He already gave his life to our country.

Oh and OBAMA SUCKS THE BUT


Edit Caihlem: Edited out the normal and put in the Bash Topic

LOL - I posted in the wrong forum
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PostSubject: Re: [Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials   [Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials EmptyThu Jul 24, 2008 4:25 am

Yeah, that's what I had figured Razz


To say the truth, I'm not sure why we even have this debate, we know who the next president is, it's in the country's name Smile

Observe:
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PostSubject: Re: [Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials   [Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials EmptyWed Jul 30, 2008 6:24 pm

The Boston Tea Party looks interesting, some people really have too much money if they can afford to waste it on a presidential campaign.
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PostSubject: Re: [Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials   [Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials EmptyWed Sep 03, 2008 12:30 am

Time to Juice this up a bit.

10 Reasons Why Anyone Who Can Think Should Not Vote for Baraka Hussein Obama

1. His true first name is Baraka, and his middle name is Hussein. His bigamous father, who abandoned him at birth, and his step-father were Moslems. His mother was a converted Moslem. Baraka lived in Moslem Indonesia and was enrolled in a Moslem school, during his psychologically formative ages of 6-10, where he studied and prayed the Koran, "Death to the Unbelievers!" (meaning you and I!). He spent his teenage years in Hawaii were he was into the recreational drug culture. Love that Maui Wowie!

2. He "converted" to Christianity upon marrying his wife and joined her church of "God Damn America", lead by Reverend Wright, and only recently, when politically expedient, departed this devil worshiping heresy. What church will have him now? Incidently, as a Moslem Apostate, Obama would have no standing in negotiations with any Moslem country and in fact would be proscribed the death penalty under Sharia law should he visit one!

3. He received a $300,000 discount on the purchase of his primary residence, plus some bonus yard space, in a self ascribed "boneheaded deal", by virtue of a three-way escrow with now convicted financier Tony Rezco. And it only cost us, the taxpayers $14,000,000 in grants. Better had he just stolen the $300K outright.

4. He does not recognize the term "conflict of interest" as he earmarked millions of dollars for the hospital where his wife was employed as an overpaid attorney.

5. A lust for power seems to run in his family. Raila Odinga, Baraka's first cousin, who is now Premier of Kenya, has pledged to make Sharia (Moslem) law, the law of the land. Could it happen here next?

6. He is a god damn lawyer. A Harvard educated lawyer. This is the birthplace of such doublespeak phrases as: "It depends on what the meaning of is, is..."

7. In his short tenure, he has recorded the most liberal (re: communist) voting record in the Senate, an even more remarkable feat as he has spent over half his brief term out running for the presidency. He has not worked harmoniously with his Senate colleagues, of either major party, being the only communist.

8. He picked Joe Biden, an old line Senate Democrat and admitted plagiarist, who is in deep with the plurality of US corporations that are based in his state, to be his running mate. Incidently, Biden has such faith in their candidacy that he is simulaneously running to retain his Senate seat. And speaking of picks, does a cabinet post await Baraka's murderous Weather Underground buddy, the terrorist William Ayres!

9. He has ZERO executive, financial, nor foreign policy experience though, he is an oratory genius reading from the teleprompter but, dodges even the simplest questions when queried off the box. He is running a campaign of lies, and platitudes rather than one of truth and issues.

10. His Democrat cronies are already in charge of all the key House committees and, as they are certain to retain their majorities in both houses, are busy crafting enormous tax increases to turn our mild recession into a true depression.


THINK TEN TIMES before you consign America to the unspeakable whims of a smooth talking LYING BONEHEADED COMMUNIST MOSLEM CROOK!
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PostSubject: Re: [Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials   [Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials EmptyWed Sep 03, 2008 6:17 am

1. The Koran doesn't say "Death to the Unbelievers"... It says spread your wisdom of Religion, and some interpret it was Spread it by Death (the Ji-had)
For the side Joke, what do you think the crusades were? The Christians killing muslims (and other christians Rolling Eyes)

For the rest, I'd rather vote him the the McCain potatoes...
His VP is a huge guarantee of seeing the Bush Administration all over again.
We should ask her her opinions on Divorce and Infidelity. Two things her beloved Presidential Candidate did. Some man to hog another when his wife is crippled, BE-UUU-TI-FUL!
Oh, and she's also thinking she can force a guy into marrying her daughter for having done her up without marriage first. That's a good streak of religion to you.
Lest I forget his, what was it, 13 houses... Damn, life is so difficult for the new War Dog
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PostSubject: Re: [Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials   [Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials EmptyWed Sep 03, 2008 8:21 pm

The McCain administration is totally different then the Bush administration and the wo of them pretty much hate each other. McCain would never pick a VP candidate that went along with Bush policy.

Here are some areas where the two of them disagree.

1.McCain fought for campaign finance reform — McCain-Feingold — that Bush resisted and ultimately signed because he had no choice.
2.McCain led the battle to restrict interrogation techniques of terror suspects and to ban torture.
3.McCain went with Joe Lieberman on a tough measure to curb climate change, something Bush denies is going on.
4.McCain opposed the Bush tax cuts when they passed.
5.McCain urged the Iraq surge, a posture Bush rejected for years before conceding its wisdom.
6.McCain favors FDA regulation of tobacco and sponsored legislation to that effect, a position all but a handful of Republican senators oppose.
7.McCain's energy bill, also with Lieberman, is a virtual blueprint for energy independence and development of alternate sources.
8.After the Enron scandal, McCain introduced sweeping reforms in corporate governance and legislation to guarantee pensions and prohibit golden parachutes for executives. Bush opposed McCain's changes and the watered-down Sarbanes-Oxley bill eventuated.
9.McCain has been harshly critical of congressional overspending, particularly of budgetary earmarks, a position Bush only lately adopted (after the Democrats took over Congress).

To call him a War Dog only shows your lack of knowledge of him. As for Sarah I dont think anyone cares about her position on divorce and infedility. If you base your opinions on topics such as these then I would suggest finding a different news paper to read. Ther is much more to politics and proven leadership will go much further than a slick dog and pony show.

Since you have such a opinion of the McCain / Palin Administration let me hear some intelligent views on why Obama / Biden are the answer. What have they promised, and what are their plans are to execute. What have they accomplished in their careers that shows their ability to lead the most powerful nation in the world?
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Quote :
most powerful nation in the world?

*Cough cough cough*
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PostSubject: Re: [Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials   [Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials EmptyFri Sep 05, 2008 11:09 pm

Caihlem wrote:
Quote :
most powerful nation in the world?

*Cough cough cough*

Unfortunately we have a weak Smily selection.
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PostSubject: Re: [Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials   [Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials EmptySun Sep 07, 2008 1:41 pm

USA will suffer when any modern day democrate is elected.

This coming from niether republican or Demorcrate.
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PostSubject: Re: [Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials   [Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials EmptyWed Sep 10, 2008 8:59 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8

This hits pretty good
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PostSubject: Re: [Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials   [Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials EmptyThu Sep 11, 2008 4:54 am

That depends if you agree with what he says or not...

"Sacrificed promoting freedom"
They sure as hell weren't free before - agreed. But right now they're in a civil war. So for being "better off", I fail to see it. Tyranny or fear of death... I'd rather the tyranny personally

Settle home issues before settling offshore issues.
The rise of Communism in Russia (and it's present state today) is all because of the Tzar's mistake:
He decided during a major economic crisis at home that it was a better idea to send his armed forces to other territories. Result: More problems at home, and the rise of Communism

WeNeedMcCain is the username of the poster of that video. But the truth is WeDon'tNeedAnotherBush.
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PostSubject: Re: [Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials   [Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials EmptyWed Sep 17, 2008 1:12 am

My concern is Obama seems weak on experience & political know-how, which will cost him votes.
His Muslim background should be of no concern as true Muslims are bound by the teachings of the Koran as predominantly focussing on Peace.
Obama would have made a great candidate at the next Presidential Elections I feel this is just one election too early!

Alternatively, why was John McCain not nominated earlier so that the world could have been spared George "Dubya" & McCain may have lived through his administration, whereas now the question at the back of everyones mind, but no-one seems to want to ask is:- What happens when McCain dies or becomes incapacitated halfway through his tenure & control is passed to someone with even less experience than Obama, who we didn't vote for on exactly those grounds?
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PostSubject: Re: [Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials   [Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials EmptyThu Sep 18, 2008 9:39 pm

McCain is not very conservative and has been known to be too liberal. Has sided in congress with Democrats more often then any other Rebublican Senator. He has never commanded very much respect and therefore never earned the nomination. McCain lost the nomination to GB in 2000.

He is 72 but not the oldest person to hold the Presidency. Reagan was older by 2 years in his second term. Sarah technically has more experience then Obama which is why no one compares Obama to McCain. It's kind of a running joke since Sarah, VP candidate has more experience than Obama being candidate for president. You dont hear this in the media but it's true.

Obama is getting desperate since McCain introduced Palin and there are discussions on the table about releasing Biden to bring Hillary to the VP role. Something that started when Biden admitted that Hillary was a better candidate then himself. I do not think this will happen though because if it did Obama will have to own up to making a huge mistake. Which, in turn, could lose him the election.
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Owning up to mistakes. I'd vote for someone who could do that Smile
Then again, if he removed Biden for Hillary on the sole basis of the elections, I'd be dissapointed like hell Neutral

I don't see the issue with McCain surviving another 5 years either. He's not fragile and I do think that people would pay great attention to his health checks.
Also, if McCain wasn't proposed before, it's because they preferred Bush and he's in the same party...

I still think it's the Mr Obama who's best suited for the job though. If not for his ideals but also for the fact that he's a great talker - something America could definitely use to redo themselves after Bush literally told us all to piss off
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PostSubject: Re: [Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials   [Bash Topic] 2008 American Presidentials EmptyFri Oct 31, 2008 5:55 am

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I still think it's the Mr Obama who's best suited for the job though. If not for his ideals but also for the fact that he's a great talker - something America could definitely use to redo themselves after Bush literally told us all to piss off

I must have missed this. Would you seriously vote for someone to lead a country because they are a good talker? Or is your opinon merely based on the fact that you do not like Bush, therefore meaning the Republican Party is bad because of him?
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ONECRUNCH wrote:
Caihlem wrote:
I still think it's the Mr Obama who's best suited for the job though. If not for his ideals but also for the fact that he's a great talker - something America could definitely use to redo themselves after Bush literally told us all to piss off

I must have missed this. Would you seriously vote for someone to lead a country because they are a good talker? Or is your opinon merely based on the fact that you do not like Bush, therefore meaning the Republican Party is bad because of him?


Seriously, dude, the greatest Republican President of the 20th century was nothing BUT a great talker. Ronald Reagan, the Actor.

As far as McCain, I certainly wouldn't have wanted that shell-shocked, verging on psychotic, Hanoi Hilton-livin' motherflipper to run the country either. When you get right down to it, they're all just a bunch of windbags trying to blow you so they can sit in the Oval Office. I mean seriously. Wham


P.S. And yes, I think Gee-Dub is the single worst president the Republicans have yet to foist on us. The guy is a complete silver-spoon flipstick. The douche even rigged an election. C'mon. Suspect
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